>SAHD, Really
>Boy, did my stay-at-home dad column in the Nashville Scene send a handful of online SAHDs into a tizzy.
They practically foamed at the mouth after I admitted that I wouldn’t invite a SAHD friend to join my all-mommy playgroup. Unbelievably, I found myself defending my right to have a girls-only group without feeling guilty about it. I didn’t say I wouldn’t be friends with a SAHD, or hang out with one. I am and I do. I didn’t say that I wouldn’t join a playgroup that had men and women in it. That would be pretty cool, actually. And I certainly didn’t “come to the conclusion that men in general — and at-home dads in particular — are perverted home wreckers,” which was one SAHD’s bizarre take on it. But none of that mattered. I hadn’t let a dad into my ragtag playgroup and I. Must. Pay.
That sentiment launched a textbook study in bad Internet relations. Since writing the column, I’ve been called every name in the book by a small group of SAHDs, both in e-mails, in daddy forums, and on their own blogs. It was enough to make the Green Hills MOMS Club look tame. I mean, those gals only accused me of wearing too much makeup and waiting tables (Ooh! Ouch!). But these dads labeled me a “tart,” a “bitch with a capital C,” and a “bigoted, self-righteous, conceited cow,” among other things.
Honestly, though, even those names are tame compared to a conversation about me that occurred on one well-trafficked SAHD forum just yesterday. There, the guys uploaded a few pictures of me and made all sorts of demeaning sexual comments. Some of them were even fired up enough to send me personal e-mails. Well, thanks for organizing that campaign, guys. It’s great to have some real names to put with your user IDs, particularly since at least one of you is apparently a pretty big deal in the online SAHD world.
I tell you all this only because it’s pathetic that since I’m a woman writing things with which a few men disagree, I can’t just be “wrong.” No. I’m a tart. I’m a bitch. I deserve to be sexually degraded. I am all for civil disagreement and in fact, I encourage it, but when you resort to saying I’d be less annoying with your nuts on my chin? Well, father of two, that’s not exactly making you or your cause look very good.
So uh, Happy Valentine’s Day, everyone! Let me say here and now that I believe the vast majority of SAHDs are nice, normal guys who are unfortunately getting overlooked in this ridiculous online brouhaha. But hello there, you vast majority of nice, normal guys! I’ve gotten all of your e-mails, too, and I appreciate them. Oh, and if you’d like to see my Nashville Scene follow-up, you can see for yourself what the SAHD I “blacklisted” from my playgroup had to say about the whole thing. The full text of the column is below.
SAHDs Gone Mad
Talk about hitting a nerve. After my last column, written about the sad plight of stay-at-home dads (called SAHDs by those in the know), I was flooded with responses from SAHDs and the wives who support them. Readers either took the column as honest commentary on the lonely, resourceless world of SAHDs, or else they decided that by writing about it, I was actually contributing to their problems, calling me everything from “rude, crass and thoughtless” to a “bigoted, self-righteous, conceited cow.”
My crime, according to the naysayers, was admitting to not inviting a SAHD friend to join my all-mommy playgroup.
“As with the drunks, the first step is admitting you have a problem,” wrote a man who called himself ‘Backpacking Dad.’ “Say it with me now: “I am a SAHM who still has a stick up her ass. I would like to be better, or perhaps have a smaller stick.’”
“’You can’t join our playgroup because you’re a guy’ sounds a lot like ‘you can’t have this job because you’re a woman,’” wrote Robbo. “Is it just me? I’ve been a home dad for almost 5 years now.”
Actually, I think ‘You can’t join our playgroup because you’re a guy,’ sounds more like, ‘Honey, you can’t come to poker night because then the guys won’t feel comfortable farting and cussing and talking about Pamela Anderson’s tits.’ But that’s just me.
It was easy to laugh off these angry papas, but some SAHDs who wrote left me feeling like I needed to give them a blankie and a big hug.
“Even a seemingly harmless column like this damages our already fragile reputation,” wrote a reader who answers to the name, ‘SkumChiken.’ (Just a tip, dude: Changing your screen name may boost your fragile reputation more than a thousand playgroup invites ever could.)
“Your failed attempt at humor has only further damaged those of us whose only crime is having testicles while stay home (sic) caring for our kids,” wrote another reader named Will in one of several hand-wringing comments he made on my website.
I was willing to entertain their side of the issue. But first, I wanted to do a little research on these mad dads, so I visited a site from which many of them had linked to my column, athomedad.org. Heading over to the site’s discussion board, I clicked on the first topic that looked interesting, titled “Adult Breast Feeding.” It was from a guy who calls himself Bassmaster, and read, “At what point in the relationship is it okay to tell your wife you just want to see her cousin’s boobs?” Interestingly, hand-wringing Will had responded to this query with an ode to breasts that included, “we will rise up and gaze longly (sic) at the nipples. We will march proudly in the shadows of enormous melons, and we will no longer live in fear of ridicule or the strife caused as result of our god given right to freedom of boobie viewing!”
And you’re wondering, Will, why a mom might not feel comfortable inviting you to her playgroup?
Fortunately, most of the stay-at-home dads who wrote in didn’t blame me for broaching the subject. “As a member of the other team,” wrote a stay-at-home dad named Mark, “I’ve been on the receiving end of what you describe many times over… it’s just the way it is. “
“My experience has been that most women haven’t been to inviting to this SAHD,” Greg wrote. “Birthday invites still go to my wife’s account seven years in. Teachers still give notes to my kids and tell them to give them to ‘mom…’ When I go to playgroups I feel like all the women are eye fucking me.”
Eye fucking? I filed that one away for future use. But it brought up a good point.
“I became good friends with a SAHD years ago,” reader Jenn wrote. “But there was always a barrier to our relationship–it just feels weird to spend that much time with a man who is not your husband. Other SAHMs are definitely wondering if there’s something more going on.”
“One of my brothers in law is a stay-at-home dad, like me, and he sexed up a mommy met on one of these playdates,” wrote another dad. “Nearly destroyed two marriages. I get tired of moms who don’t socialize with me, especially when they’re socializing actively with other moms. But I gotta admit, I can understand why some of them are weirded out by the thought of becoming pals with a dad.”
After reading all of these opinions on the issue, I wondered about the dad at the center of the controversy. Was the uninvited SAHD I wrote about angry with me, or uncomfortable with our friendship? Did he think, as one dad put it on athomedad.org, that I was “a Bitch with a capital C?” Would he ever hang out with me again? Curious, I e-mailed him to find out how he felt about the column. “I thought it was great,” he responded, “insightful, even for my having been there. Thanks for all the fun and I look forward to our next playdate.”
Sounds good. Just remind me not to write about it.
>i am completely disgusted that anyone would write those words about you. i love yr blog and yr honesty even when i disagree. you go girl!
>Lindsay,Let me start by saying (and I know you already know this) those idiots don’t speak for every stay-at-home dad.I am a SAHD and have been for about 6 years now. I have a 13 yrd old daughter with Autism, who I homeschool and a 3 year old daughter. My wife has a great job working for a local heathcare company.I can understand why you didn’t let a guy in your play group. Most men are pigs and do not know how to respectfully talk to a women of the opposite sex.I WAS in a local stay-at-home dads group but had to get out because of their cromagnon attitudes toward their wife and kids. I actually had one dad tell me that his 4 year old girl was “a bitch.” That was pretty much it for me. Not all of the guys are like that but most of them are very stand-offish and almost embarrassed to be a stay at home dad. On the other hand I have always related to women better than men anyway.I chose to stay at home. I came off the road playing music because my oldest needed me and my wife makes more money in a year than I ever would playing music.I love staying at home with my girls I believe that they are better off for it. My personality is much more suited for staying at home than my wifes. I do miss conversations with adults from time to time but I would not change a thing.I regards to your article I agree with you 100%. Things would be much better if we all relaxed and just enjoy each others company and the main thing we have in common: Being stay-at-home parents.Thanks and keep up the good work.Daniel Dingeldein
>I just don’t understand what the ruckus is about – you (and others, as I recall) have repeatedly said that they would consider a co-ed play group, but just don’t want to change the all-girl dynamic of existing ones you have. What is the problem with this? It seems like these livid, name-calling dads are trying to deny that there is any difference between the sexes at all and that is an age-old debate that will not be solved here and now – there is a reason that same-sex schools exist, childhood sleepovers are all girls or all boys (generally) – it’s not wrong for these situations to be co-ed, but it provides an entirely different experience. And thats ok.
>OMG. Why in the world would anyone, especially men behave like that?! I mean if they are going to be mean don’t they realize the hurt and damage they do to you and themselves? Wow! I am surprised by this! I simply love your blog and try to read it every day. Keep going!
>Interesting that these dads sure aren’t leaving comments now. None of them wants to be tied into this discussion.
>Sorry for anonymous but I would hate to invite similar responses from those dads. I think the SAHD above, Daniel, said it much more eloquently then I will be able to, but please accept my apology as a POD (Plain Old Dad) on behalf of the boorish men that should indeed know better.Your wit and charm are reflected quite well in your writing style and if your are not entitled to your own opinion here online, on your very own blog, where else could you express it publicly and so well. I enjoy your humor, enjoy what you write and amongst all, I feel it only fair to defend your right to say it. The SAHDs certainly have the same right to express their OPINION, but should also do so with the same civil decorum you use in expressing your views.As I said, I think Daniel said it much better than me, but I hope I was able to express my support and sentiment clearly.
>Gee, Lindsay, I didn’t know you had such a huge house that you hosted the only playgroup in the Nashville area!I mean really, guys, why do you give a f*ck what Lindsay thinks? She stated her opinion, you all disagree, great, no need for bullying and acting like 12-year-olds.I’m a WAHD who everyone (including my in-laws) just assumes is a SAHD, so I get it. Just wait until your kid is in fourth grade and the various moms constantly make excuses so their kids can’t come over after school. You think not being invited to a playgroup sucks, try feeling like a suspected pedophile.But guess what? That’s their hangup, not mine, I’m doing my own thing and loving every minute of it. Lindsay didn’t harm your “fragile reputation”, she harmed your fragile egos. It takes balls to be a SAHD (hey-oh!), and a rock solid self-esteem which all you haters obviously need to work on.
>Gah, Prescott, that sucks. Don’t they know who you are?See, that kind of comment makes me think. A little. Seriously.
>It seems like the hang-up lies in calling it a “playgroup” when really it sounds more like a bunch of friends getting together. The children come along because they go where we go. Why is it assumed that we get together with friends just to socialize the kids? It might be an added perk, but certainly not even close to the main reason I spend time with friends.To say everyone should be included and invited is asinine. I decide who my friends are and with whom I want to socialize. If you want some social interaction, make a friend! Don’t get pissed because a group of friends won’t let you come play at their house; it’s not 6th grade.
>My comment makes me think of something else. Why do we SAHM/SAHD’s feel like we need to justify taking time out of the day for some adult interaction by calling it a ‘playgroup’? What’s wrong with not spending every second focused on our kids and feeling OK with taking some time for our own happiness?
>Dude, what. the. hell?I can not believe anyone would say that to you. Less annoying with…wha? Admittedly, as a mom I was all, “WHY NOT LET THAT GUY IN??” But at the same time, I get it. I love my girlfriends and my girl-talk and having a dude in there with us would curtail that chatter. Then we’d have to make plans around the guy, and that would be just plain rude.
>Lindsay, I have a friend who is a SAHD of 4. It is still sometimes wierd even though he is the feminine partner in a homosexual relationship. I love him dearly. Even though he is not a threat, I still don’t talk about EVERYTHING in front of him (although most everything!).
>That is terrible. I am so sad for the children of these fathers. Can you imagine if they talk this way around their kids?? I’m sure that some of them have daughters. What an awful thought it is that someone who is raising a young woman could be so horribly vulgar.I’m sorry you had these things said about you. I’m also sorry for our society that a woman can’t have an opinion without being labeled in some sort of perverse, vile, dismissing fashion.
>Vile. And self-defeating. Just how much respect do these guys think they’ll have when their daughters read the words they’ve put out on the internet for everyone to see? If they feel disrespected by adults, how do they think they’ll feel when their own daughters are disgusted with them?
>Look over there! A guy is saying crass things! Pay no attention to the hurtful sexism in my previous post, look at the men behaving badly!
>Men and women everywhere are jerks and say jerky things. Big shocker. But crying “he called me a bad name” doesn’t distract some of us from the meat of the issue here.I did a Google search of [Nashville at stay home dad group]. The 4th hit of the first page has contact info for the Middle Tennessee dad’s group (ccsr@mac.com). Same thing by searching for [nashville] at DIYFather.comIf you’re going to write an article saying basically that SAHDs are sad lepers, do 10 seconds of research and provide folks with the “solution” to this “problem”. Anecdotal evidence, though amusing, is not evidence that all full time dads have a “problem” with no recourse.And while we’re at it, why not say Full Time Dad instead of SAHD? Imagine the backlash if we acronymized “women having obtained rewarding employment” instead of saying working moms. Besides, you could have all kinds of fun making STD puns against FTD, or even flower delivery jokes. Hey, ultimately I don’t have a big problem with your mommy group not wanting any daddies around (I don’t invite moms to the dads play group). In fact, I would find it much more awkward to be in alone in a mom’s home for a play date than in a co-ed group at a playground, but if that’s the arrangement you and your dad-bud have worked out, then more power to ya. But to imply that all dads are left twisting in the wind just because they can’t join YOUR group is simply ignorance compounded by lazy journalism. Again, 10 seconds on Google isn’t asking a lot.
>Dear readers,Lindsay writes a humor blog and column. I can appreciate that some of you may not get the subtleties of the humor, but trust me, most of it is written with tongue in cheek. You folks need to get a grip.Dear Lindsay,How sad that there are so many without a sense of humor. How dreary and depressing their lives must be. How difficult it must be for them to face every challenge of their day without the ability to laugh at themselves or the circumstance. I for one am glad to have a humorous moment in each day. Sometimes I even find two.
>I’m sorry to see that every ass-hole crawled out of the woodwork to crap all over everything.I still think you’re wrong, not for refusing the let the dad into the playgroup (which as I read later on you think of first and foremost as a friend group), but for the way you defended it in the comments section. You don’t need to let anyone you don’t want into your circle of friends; but that isn’t what “playgroup” brought to my mind.In the comments you leaned on the “When Harry Met Sally” conversation in order to show why you wouldn’t have wanted the dad in your playgroup. That unfortunately paints all sahds with the same horny brush, and that more than anything else hurts the sahd cause in a column that seemed originally about supporting, or at least lamenting, that cause. Prescott’s mention of being treated like a pedophile is worth noting here; we don’t want to be treated like horny pervs either, but you turned a funny column that was possibly supportive of sahds into a big fat WARNING against the dads who try to get into playgroups.Now, even more damaging, a bunch of ass-hats are making the job harder, and while you provided the opportunity, I don’t think you are to blame for it. Just the same, smearing all of the guys over at athomedad.org, and by extension all sahds, because of one thread on one discussion board seems irresponsible. Maybe you should have taken the higher ground there instead of writing what seemed a piqued, reactionary, and juvenile attack on the online sahd community.
>So go have yourselves a pity party on your own time, dudes. It’s Lindsay’s blog, articles, and opinions. If you don’t like what she writes, then don’t read it. This just confirms what my gay guy friend has always said: “If it has tires or testosterone……well, you’re GOING TO HAVE TROUBLE WITH IT. Stick to your guns, Lindsay! Those of us who matter love and support your right to have–and voice–your own opinions!
>I’m so confused. You wrote about a personal experience that you had and wrote about YOUR feelings regarding SAHD at your MOMMY group and these grown men have their panties in a wad over it?Wow. Can you imagine how much fun these guys must be to live with?My GOD.
>Freedom of Speech. If they don’t like that, let ’em eat cake — or moth balls.
>I must admit, I see both sides of this one. I understand why you might want to have a group of friends who are all women and feel comfortable together, and how a man might change the dynamic of the group. I also see how a man might feel left out – maybe even often, as your group is likely not the only one with the same feeling about that. I have, in fact, often found SAHDs I’ve read online a bit defensive about it, or seemingly so. Maybe anyone who is busy trying to bring something newer into the norm would come across that way, but there have been times I’ve just thought, “Okay, it doesn’t have to be such a big deal, guys.” Then again, maybe it really is easier as the mom.
>I am a member of the forum you speak of in this post but did not read that thread until today and have not commented until now – here or there.As a humor writer I can see and understand parts of your article that were meant to be funny, and they were. The other statements in the piece were your open opinions of SAHD’s and you generalized all of us based on your interaction with one dad and the wife of another (if I remember correctly). That is what sent the online dads into a twisty (my 4yo son’s word for tizzy :lol:).When you openly express opinions like that, even if to you and others they are funny, you are certainly to expect some backlash in return. Some dads think “nuts on my chin” is funny and in a poker game setting it can be. Or a SAHD’s forum where women are allowed – but not always invited. Very similar to your views of your moms group and the sexual nature of banter that goes on there about The Wiggles. :shudder:Overall, your article has created much discussion about SAHD’s and SAHM’s and the way the two can interact or not. I live in Austin, TX, and there is a big group of SAHD’s here that meet on a regular basis. I have yet to become actively involved on a regular basis because the moms and dads that I know from previous friendships, the parks, and my son’s preschool are all very friendly. I’ve never been to an official “mommy playgroup” but see many of them at the playgrounds and they are always friendly. I attribute that to the fact that I’m an outgoing person and I have damn cute kids. :)Just remember, when you write a controversial article, humor attempts and all, you are going to catch some grief. Some people will give you more and some less. And some will agree with you 100%. That’s how the ball bounces. Overall I think you writing this article was a good thing as it started a fairly large online discussion, hopefully for the better of all of us.
>While your article may have attempted to be humorous as well as draw attention there are a few things that can create issues especially in a group that already deals with identity and social acceptance issues. I read your article a few times and actually have avoided reading all the comments because I know emotions can run high especially in Parent Politics. For me the most disturbing thing you wrote was about your reaction after the SAHD left the one time. While I do not condone much of the emotional comments from all sides I do understand how they came about. As with any group that feels threatened they tend to lash out and sometimes those lashings are harsh and over done. I would like to say that being an At Home Parent is a rewarding and difficult job that can be looked down on by those that are not. With all the issues of being an At Home Parent it is amazing that At Home Moms and Dads still do not play well together in groups. I have many At Home Mom Friends and have limited exposure to the local moms groups because a few moms early on made it clear I was not wanted, despite them being in the minority. So as life progresses new things come up and we move on. I personally have begun making good friends with many moms and they are comfortable enough with me as a responsible adult to discuss things such as the hotness scale of men, cycles and nursing. In the end it has to do with the comfort level of the people involved and their own insecurities. The individual friendships do not translate into Play Groups because group dynamics can be an impossible thing.Just remember that emotions have run really high and a few overzealous and targeted comments do not reflect that persons’ ability to be a parent or for that matter other PARENTS to be judged by them.TrulyTodd “A Man Among Mommies”
>Here’s the thing. I’m a SAHM. I used to have a pretty exciting paid job, but when my second came along, the dynamic shifted and I took the decision to stay home for a while. It wasn’t easy. One of the ways I get through it is to regard at least parts of what I’m doing now as my ‘job’. And what I would like to know is this:If these dads were in paid employment, would they expect EVERY ONE of their co-workers to invite them into their lives just because they happened to work in the same place?Thought not.Now put your toys back in the playbox boys, and get a life.
>Quirkee James, you said:”When you openly express opinions like that, even if to you and others they are funny, you are certainly to expect some backlash in return. Some dads think “nuts on my chin” is funny and in a poker game setting it can be. Or a SAHD’s forum where women are allowed – but not always invited. Very similar to your views of your moms group and the sexual nature of banter that goes on there about The Wiggles. :shudder:”There’s a difference between appropriate and inappropriate backlash.The difference is that your friends were angry with Lindsey. So when you talk about what you want to do to her, no matter where you are it’s a rape fantasy mentality, not a Wiggles humor mentality.And now you are basically telling her that she deserves what she gets.You should be ashamed of yourself.
>I’m with concerned parent. “Balls on my chin” is basically saying the woman would only be tolerable with a d**k in her mouth. That is completely inappropriate backlash. Not to mention violent, disgusting and scary. The fact that a bunch of SAHDs are writing stuff like that is the reason I watch my girls like a hawk every second we’re out in public.I like to believe men have more respect for women than they did fifty years ago, but things like this prove me wrong again and again.Anna
>Just a reminder that those who resort to name calling will be deleted.
>I find it sadly ironic that your preference for a girls-only group was based purely on your desire to hang out with girls-only…not because you were making any sweeping assumptions about men in general. You didn’t insinuate that men are chauvanistic pigs who behave in all sorts of testerone-driven abusive ways. Wasn’t even on your radar, was it? It’s rather ironic, then, that these *ahem* “men” behaved this way. I admire the way you are handling this.
>”So when you talk about what you want to do to her, no matter where you are it’s a rape fantasy mentality, not a Wiggles humor mentality.And now you are basically telling her that she deserves what she gets.You should be ashamed of yourself.”First of all, I didn’t say anything negative about Ms. Ferrier and I certainly don’t have any rape fantasies about her. You completely missed my point in that post and if you think some guy locker room talk is equal to rape fantasies, well, that is just ridiculous.I am not angry with Lindsay and never said I was. I think her writing about this topic was a good thing and if she didn’t expect backlash then she’s naive. But I’m pretty sure she knew what she was doing when she wrote it and has certainly proved capable of handling herself against negative comments on her views.And why should I be ashamed of myself?
>I thought that most sahd’s were more upset by the things that were said like”That leaves their wives to do the networking for them.”and”For the most part, they just stay huddled in dark little corners, afraid to go out in public.””. If everyone wants to keep concentrating on the playgroup, well whatever, but it, in this sahd’s opinion, was the least of the offenses. It was the tidbits being passed off as some universal truth. But if you folks leaving these posts can’t remember the right hand while your eyes are on the left hand, nothing anyone can say will do any good.
>Okay, anony, but the first comment is true for a lot of people and the second was made by a SAHD.So what’s your point?
>Interestingly enough, MOMS Club’s policy on SAHD’s, is that they need to be voted into a club, they arent allowed to just join….so, you arent the only one that appreciates the “all girls” concept.After reading your column, what comes to mind, is that any many making sexually degrading comments, is not the kind of “man” I would want staying home raising my children, let alone near them at all, YUCK!Stay strong, they have shown their stripes, and made your point for you.
>true for how many people? How many sahd’s do you know? I personally know a lot, and I don’t know one whose wife “networks” for them. True that the second comment was made by a sahd, I guess for that it’s too bad that the author found seemingly the most pathetic sahd on the planet to quote. If the quote is accurate and not taken out of context that is.
>Oh and as for the “sexual comments” that make these sahd’s unfit parents in many of your eyes, I have been a member of quite a few sahm’s groups, and the things women talk about in my experience are for worse than the few comments mentioned here. Perhaps not as course, but worse.
>As I said before, I suspect that the SAHD’s are discriminated against because it is a non-traditional role in our society with patriarchal roots. You just think “what’s wrong with that guy that he isn’t providing for his family.” It’s a prejudiced thought. It isn’t right considering that those of us who are Gen Xers were brainwashed by “Free to be you and me” as children. But at the end of the day, “Ward and June” “Carol and Mike” images of home trump the nontraditional format. As college educated women begin to eclipse college educated men and when they marry, they have the greater earning potential as a consequence, I suspect we will see even more SAHDs.
>I can’t believe you were treated like that–it’s got to make you have a little sympathy for what Hillary is going through.I commented on your article, and I had a very nice, heartfelt exchange with a SAHD who appreciated and understood my take on the situation, so thanks for giving me that opportunity.
>All this painting with a broad brush is totally laughable.Equally amusing is the group who shout “freedom of speech” in support of Lindsay, but then tell the disgruntled Dads to shut their collective pie holes. “Don’t read it if you don’t like it” is a 2 lane road, people.Likewise ironic is that Lindsay herself says that namecalling posts will be deleted. That is of course unless the namecalling is against the disgruntled Dads who are freely allowed to be called “pigs” “idiots” “cromagnons” “humorless” “soft ego’d” “thin skinned” “rude” “crass” “vile” “bullies” “immature” “should be ashamed” and my personal favorites “violent, disgusting and scary”. And all based on the comments of a myopically small sampling of Dads.Remember that speech on this private property blog is not protected by the Bill of Rights. Lindsay can say what she wants and censor what she doesn’t like. This is as it should be; let’s just not pretend otherwise.
>For the record, I don’t *really* believe these SAHMs think I’m a pedophile, but without going into specifics it’s pretty clear that these moms have a problem sending their kids over to play when it’s just dad supervising (maybe they found out I was an immoral atheist, lol).But that’s a whole other issue than the playgroup thing and something I don’t feel you would have a problem with, Lindsay, especially when we’re talking about 9 and 10 year old boys.
>You’ve come a long way Babe’so much for the open minded feminist making the world a better place.
>I know you were joking about that, Prescott, but it’s too bad that some moms aren’t letting their kids come to your house. It will change when they turn into teenagers, the parents get sick of dealing with them, and suddenly you’ll be surprised at how many parents don’t care who’s watching their kids. I’ve been amazed at how many parents haven’t called first when we’ve had large parties here for teens.The comments that were deleted were from someone who was calling other readers “idiot.”
>http://athomedad.org/node/2291a little touchy are we?
>You don’t find it at all ironic to call them touchy as a comment on this particular blog post?
>I think its interesting that so many of us are choosing to be anonymous because we’re afraid these guys will target us. If that doesn’t say it all about them, I don’t know what does.
>I think its interesting that so many of us are choosing to be anonymous because we’re afraid Lindsey will target us and take snippets we say out of context. If that doesn’t say it all about her, I don’t know what does.
>Dang. I usually love to read all the crazy shit people come up with when you start some uproar, but this time, I feel angry for you.
>Sigh…. why do some men seem to feel justified in resorting to sex-based insults in order to degrade any woman who happens to have an opinion they don’t like? I find it so frustrating.I love your blog. Don’t let the avalanche of ignorance get you down. You’re great.
>If you are SO ready to move on, why call more attention to it with another post?It’s so Omarosa of you.
>I wrote another post because someone was going to write about it on a high profile blog and if I was going to get a lot of traffic, I figured I needed to have some defense ready. Apparently, my defense worked, because he scrapped the post. 🙂
>A lot of negative traffic, that is.
>Yep, one “Anonymous” with too much time on his hands can pretty much spoil the whole thing for everyone. I think we’re pretty much done here, anyway. Everyone’s had their say, right? Some, as I predicted, over and over and oooovvvveerrrrr. Anyway, if you’re still angsty, feel free to e-mail me at suburban.turmoil@yahoo.com.