Hi! I'm Lindsay Ferrier. You might remember me from a blog called Suburban Turmoil. Well, a lot has changed since I started that blog in 2005. My kids grew up, I got a divorce, and I finally left the suburbs for the heart of Nashville, where I feel like I truly belong. I have no idea what the future will hold and you know what? I'm okay with that. Thrilled, actually. It was time for something totally different.
October 21, 2013
The ‘I Hate Homework’ post I wrote last week has sparked a ton of discussion, both on this blog and on Facebook. But while plenty of you echoed my belief that the homework load is too heavy for our kids, there were also a number of teachers who said that parents complain when they don’t give enough homework, as well as parents who said they were all for homework because they felt it would help their kids achieve more academically.
I know very well that academic achievement is incredibly important to many, many, many parents out there — I mean, that’s why all of those Kumon centers and Kaplan test preps and teach-your-baby-to-read-at-birth DVDs exist, right? But it wasn’t until a mom left one particular comment about her second grade son that the bottom line in this homework discussion basically slapped me across the face. First writing that she had enrolled him in a private school because he was “ahead of the curve” and public school would have bored him, she then wrote:
“While the amount of homework often seems overwhelming to me, my son has never known any different and seems to be able to handle it all. Including scouts, violin, soccer, and even his 20 minutes of reading a night. I do miss time with him. And I can tell he misses me too. But as long as he can carry his load and I make time where possible I hope he succeeds.”
And that’s when I realized the great divide that exists between myself and some other parents in this particular discussion. While I think we can agree that we all want our children to succeed, I believe that our definitions of success are radically different.
For a lot of parents out there, a ‘successful’ child distinguishes himself early on, academically, athletically or creatively. He makes good grades, takes advanced-level course, and ends up getting admitted into a well-regarded college or university. After that, he’ll hopefully graduate with honors, get a good job, make a lot of money, marry well, buy a large house, and give his own children all the same advantages that he was given. This is probably what most parents out there mean when they say, “I want my child to succeed.”
And I realize this may ruffle a lot of feathers out there, but I don’t think that’s necessarily a successful life at all. For me, it all boils down to this– Have you ever heard of anyone on his deathbed asking to be surrounded by his medals, stock certificates, awards and press mentions? No. People who are dying want to go out looking at the ones who love them. At the end, relationships are what matters most, not achievements. And that pretty much tells me everything I need to know about what I should be teaching my kids about success.
I believe that a truly successful person puts people and relationships first– which means that a successful person works hard to extend grace to others, even when they don’t deserve it. A successful person gives time and resources to those in need. A successful person isn’t afraid to apologize when the occasion calls for it, without expecting anything in return. A successful person prioritizes his or her family (in whatever form that family takes) over everything else. A successful person knows at the end of it all that he or she touched a whole lot of lives in a positive way.
This is the kind of success I want for my children.
Of course, I also want them to make good grades and participate in extracurricular activities, and I try to help them with these things in any way I can. I want them to go to college and I want them to find a career that they love. And I’ll freely admit that I’m happy when my children do well at school or win a medal. But let me tell you- That happiness is nothing compared to the feeling I get when one of them decides to give all of the money in their piggy bank to a charity, or befriends the kid that plays alone at recess, or takes the time to give me or their father a hug and an “I love you” for no reason at all. That’s when I have hope that my children will truly succeed and have good, meaningful lives.
I felt like this post needed to be written mainly because this is not a definition of success that’s embraced by our society. We’re encouraged as parents to constantly push our children to do more, learn more, achieve more. I’ve fallen into this trap more times than I like to admit. But I think it’s important to take a moment to envision our children’s adult lives. Do we want a high paying, 90 hour a week career for our son that results in a loveless marriage with his wife? Do we want a daughter who has learned from our example to be so driven with her own kids that she never takes the time to simply relax and enjoy the few years she has with them? How can we as parents try to prevent this from happening to our children? Are we modeling for them the kinds of relationships that we hope they’ll have some day with their spouse or child, or are we so caught up in the rat race of earning meaningless accomplishments that it’s all they’ll know to do as adults?
When you say you want your kids to succeed, what does that really mean to you?
It’s a question worth asking.
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I couldn’t agree with you more. I have been thinking a lot about this lately. I want my daughter to have a loving family and wonderful loyal friends around her far more than I want her to have money and material things. That is real happiness! I see people around me who work their lives away and I don’t want that for my daughter. I know someone who is highly successful and well respected in her field but she works long hours, weekends, travels a lot and hardly ever goes on vacation. I don’t know when she spends time with her son but that is really none of my business. I just know I want no part of that sort of life. And I don’t want it for my daughter either. I hope she is able to do something in life that she finds fulfilling and important but is also able to prioritize the important things (family, friends, her life outside of work).
I think that my parents wanted the high powered career life with the high powered career husband for me. My life couldn’t have turned out more differently. We’ve made financial and career sacrifices so that we could raise our kid instead of leaving him in the care of others. We always do things as a family, and we have a home cooked meal together every night. I feel cheated when he has homework and we don’t over schedule him on the evenings and weekends – he sticks only to guitar lessons, and he is an amazing guitarist at 12. I just want him to be a good person and a good citizen. I want him to be healthy and true to himself. He is all those things so far. But no one seems to notice that. They notice the stagnant careers, the old car and the deferred maintenance on our house. Mindfulness and meaningfulness in our lives…still not valued as much as keeping up with the Joneses.
yeah that woman you quoted above is me I don’t think you understood what I was trying to say. guess. I don’t think she understood what I was trying to say. Of course I want my son to succeed in the traditional sense but I provide the other means of success here at home, at church and in our community. I don’t expect the school to.
I don’t define success by accolades but by the knowledge that he is truly happy with himself, his family, friends and yes even his grades.
I completely agree with you.
The part in that quote that made me tear up was “I do miss time with him. And I can tell he misses me too.” Your son misses you- change something! (I am only talking about this quote- other circumstances may not be able to be changed in other peoples lives).
My definition of success for my kids is simply this, they love the Lord, do good for others, try their best and are happy no matter what they do.
YES! Someone GETS it. Thank you! I was just crying about this to my husband last night while sipping a marg. I live in FREAKING stepfordville and this over achieving push our children to death is making me nuts!
Dear tired,
Embrace and get out. Find community and friends outside of stepfordville – those that share your same values. Don’t bow to peer pressure at your children’s expense.
~Daisy
THANK YOU for raising this question. This weekend my husband and I did a lot of chores with our kids. They griped about it, but you know what? One of our definitions of “success” for our kids is: can they take care of a yard? Wash dishes? Manage their money well? Our kids are “good” at a lot of things that are valued by society (sports, school, etc.) but my husband and I know that what matters most is relationships and time with those we love. He and I are both successful, but in our thirties and forties we’ve sacrificed pursuit of more money and career recognition so that we can both take our kids to school every day and be there when they get off the bus from school. We both spend 6-8 hours per WEEKDAY with our children and we think we are the richest most successful people in the world. And if my kids have the time that my husband and I have to be with their children we know they’ll feel the same way. Of course, I have to link a book, too. I read this on my ten year marriage anniversary trip this summer and I’ve implemented dozens of suggestions from it. It’s a winner! http://www.amazon.com/The-Secrets-Happy-Families-Mornings/dp/0061778737
great post! Love this,Lindsay!
Oh so true. Your “mompetition” post had my husband and I talking about this same kind of thing the other day. How do you “WIN” in Mompetition anyway? Is it the mom whose kid grows up to be president or cures cancer or makes a ton of money? I don’t think so. The winning is done in our families. Winning is raising kind, respectful, law abiding citizens who love and serve God, their familiy, and their neighbors. At least to us. And while I agree that academics are important they are not as important as teaching them to grow up to be hard working, loving, adults who will hopefully raise their children in the same manner. The world would be a far better place if we focused more on the “people” aspect of people and less on the “tangibles” you know? And when they’re all grown up do you think they’re gonna look back and think, “Boy, I’m glad my parents pushed me to take all those advanced classes and do umpteen hours of homework a night so I could get into that great college?” No, I think they’re going to look back and remember all the times Mom or Dad spent with them throwing the football around in the yard or baking cupcakes or any number of those too fleeting moments that make a kid feel loved and secure. I think you and I are cut from the same Mom cloth. I wish there were more parents who thought this way.
My husband and I have always felt like we needed to protect our son from this over-extended, over-selffocused, soul-crushing focus on success and, like you, we feel it is an empty thing. From the get go, our kid didn’t fit the mold of what our upper middle class community viewed as success. He needed support to learn to speak and learn due to disabilities he was born with. Just getting through the elementary school day was hard enough; the jam-packed extracurricular schedule so popular around here would have driven him and us nuts. He still has some of those disabilities and always will. Now in high school, he is on honor roll, has his own business (in art), and everyone who meets him comments on his maturity, compassion, and work ethic. Will he fit the doctor-lawyer-indian chief mold? No. Will he flourish, enjoy close relationships, the reward of hard work, and the sure knowledge that he has a purpose in life and in his community? You bet. Do I worry that he is missing out? Let me put it this way: While the neighborhood is driving all Sunday for travel soccer, we spend that day of the week doing one thing — being together as a family.
This is such a great follow-up to your original post. I myself am learning how to let go of my ideas of academic success; our older daughter just isn’t “succeeding” academically the way we’d wanted her to, but she has other interests where she IS doing well and she’s HAPPY, so I’m trying to readjust my own expectations and focus on what’s actually important.
Amen, Sista! Who needs money when you have great friends? Or a big house when you can still fit all your family in it a little more tightly? Success for my kids is a strong relationship with God that helps them to create a happy life where they find their true calling and are fulfilled!
I think even if your goal for your children is financial success, I don’t think that the “secret sauce” is hours of homework starting in kindergarten.
Check out this NYT article about the homework and test-focused Chinese educators looking to US schools: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/03/science/chinese-educators-look-to-american-classrooms.html?_r=0 They’re learning that raw knowledge and standardized tests do not translate to success in the real world.
From what you say – ‘relationships are what matter the most, not achievements’.
I would ask – are they mutually exclusive?
Spending time doing homework is not going to deprive children from forming deep friendships, bonding with family etc.
The way I see it, homework is part of life. Just like school, work, other activities. Sometimes there’s more, sometimes there’s less. You get it done. Get it done well.
Any task where performance is important; be it a recital, soccer game, school tests; practicer is important. Homework is just that – practice.
Forming meaningful relationships is not hampered by homework.
relationships
are what matters most, not achievements. – See more at:
https://somethingtotallydifferent.com/so-you-say-you-want-your-child-to-succeed/2013/10/21/#sthash.xwa5BjIq.dpuf
relationships
are what matters most, not achievements. – See more at:
https://somethingtotallydifferent.com/so-you-say-you-want-your-child-to-succeed/2013/10/21/#sthash.xwa5BjIq.dpuf
relationships
are what matters most, not achievements – See more at:
https://somethingtotallydifferent.com/so-you-say-you-want-your-child-to-succeed/2013/10/21/#sthash.xwa5BjIq.dpuf
relationships
are what matters most, not achievements – See more at:
https://somethingtotallydifferent.com/so-you-say-you-want-your-child-to-succeed/2013/10/21/#sthash.xwa5BjIq.dpuf
I have no idea how the earlier comment got messed up at the end . Sorry.
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Learning to balance is a thread throughout all of the comments…and everyone has their own viewpoints on that topic. I find that now that my kids are teenage s they like the space I leave them from being at work to be creative. I was able to work part time during their younger years and do many things…and they have learned to relate to many kinds of people through their experiences with sports and camps and time with family. My son did take ap courses but more the ones that would be those fill in courses..like history and some math. When picking those courses to take..know how many credits you get for a particular course. I think we all have things we would like to change in our lives.but as my husband says.. Live with no regrets.