>Vaccination Nation

  1. Anonymous says:

    >Hi,I’m the one who couldn’t get your post for the last week or so, well, now I can.Cheekwood!! I used to live in Columbia and we’d drive up once or twice a year and visit Cheekwood. My goal now (45 years later) is to get an art history degree and live at Cheekwood as curator.Thanks for the memory,Jenny

  2. Amy says:

    >My Dad just sent me the most startling statistic I believe I have ever heard. Turns out that 100%, that’s right- 100%, of people who have ever eaten a carrot eventually died. Why are Dads so interested in grim news? Why?

  3. >1. You build a right fine article, Lindsay. Well done.2. Seems to me that your generation has more to worry about with vaccinations, than mine seemed to have to. I got all those vaccinations, I turned out aflkahgfil…3. Amy, it ain’t only carrots: scientific research definitively proves that anyone who’s ever eaten creamed corn — even if just once — will die at the end of their lifetime. No exceptions. Also true of corn…peas…beans…beets…especially beets…ack.

  4. Missybw says:

    >You can die sooner from Beets and Brussel Sprouts, that is if you’re the cook in our house.

  5. Lahdeedah says:

    >Ahh,But do you flu shot?

  6. >Here is a link to a brilliant blog post on the subject of vaccines/autism, if anyone is interested in reading further: http://www.nakedauthors.com/2008/03/shot-in-dark.html

  7. Gertie says:

    >Ugh. I just had my son’s shots today. I have stuck to the schedule, although it seems my doctor might stagger them a bit to not have so many at one time. It makes me SO FREAKING MAD that I even have to WONDER about this crap. How can one side be so “YOUR CHILD WILL LIVE A TERRIBLE LIFE” and the other be so “Who? What? It’s fine.”. WHAT THE HELL.

  8. Darth Doc says:

    >Thanks for quoting me in the article.Regarding vaccines, (just to rehash) they are safe and reduce (and sometimes prevent) the likelyhood of getting serious infectious diseases that can seriously harm, or kill you. There is no science proving that staggering harms or helps. The biggest benefit of staggering is that it gives the mother the feeling of some element of control in the face of CDC/Dept. Ed. Guidelines, etc. The biggest drawbacks are that it drags out the number of doctor visits and will decrease the likelyhood that the child will get all their shots (because we do forget to follow up, etc…) and the child will associate the pediatrician’s office with shots. Regarding autism, I personally think that overall, the autism/vaccine link is false at best and idiosyncratic at worst. Maybe a rare group of individuals with a to yet be determined genetic predisposition (mitochondrial DNA mutation, or whatever) may be at risk. Perhaps if that link could be worked out, we can look for that genetic fingerprint in the future. Again, there is a huge Center for Personalized Medicine at Vanderbilt trying to compare genes to diseases. This might be one for them to investigate in collaboration with their outstanding vaccine research team.As I have previously lauded investigators, pediatricians and our friends in the pharmaceutical industry have truly have patient interests in mind. I have interviewed for several industry positions in my time and have found the people I potentially could have worked for to be amongst the most ethical. They believe in their mission and it is in the best interest of patients and their bottom line to pull the plug on a drug or vaccine as early in the pipeline as possible, and they have a history of doing so. You hear the horror stories in the news, but I would trust a Pharma executive more than I do lawyers or other industrialists. They have a higher standard to uphold (with the FDA, etc.) and many of them are MD’s who did take the Hippocratic oath.

  9. Darth Doc says:

    >PS – For folks concerned about Autism and Immunizations, there is a lecture at VanderbiltEric Fombonne, M.D.March 31st 4:10 PM.Room 241 Kennedy Center/MRL BuildingReception to follow (Chardonnay anyone?).Call 322-8240 for details.

  10. Judith says:

    >Thank you beautiful Lindsay for sharing info with those who read your column.You’re a good mama and a good friend to the autism community. 🙂

  11. Kat says:

    >Thanks for quoting me, Lindsey! Loved the article.Darth Doc, people might have more faith in the process of vaccine approval if there wasn’t so much conflict of interest on the panel. There really should be no members with ties to Big Pharma on the panel that approves Big Pharma’s vaccines. Vaccines that are harmful have been approved by the FDA and then pulled from the market before. The FDA is an overtaxed, understaffed government agency…I’ve worked with them in a professional capacity and I’m sorry but for anyone to put their faith in them is foolish. We all have to do our own research and make our own decisions. Sorry, didn’t mean to hijack the comments!

  12. Darth Doc says:

    >Kat,Obviously the FDA, or any other agency isn’t perfect. Of course vaccines and other drugs get pulled after being approved. A side effect or problem missed in 100,000 studied subjects during the approval process may be missed until you have 10,000,000 exposures to the drug. But those drugs ARE pulled at that time. And while parents should be informed, sometimes they don’t have the savvy, or only read what gels with their agenda. It would take about over 1 and closer to 10 million subjects to have the power to ask the question, “Does staggering vaccines reduce the risk of autism and does it have no effect on protecting from the diseases one is immunized for?” I will bet you that most doctors that are against staggering vaccines fear that patients will be lost to follow up, miss a shot, etc. If you won’t miss a visit, 1 in 10 other moms will. It doesn’t put the doctor out. They won’t even see the kid on “shot day” if shots are staggered. The fact is, a large number of the medications and vaccines we have either save or improve lives. All drugs have side effects and risks. The risks have to outweigh the benefits. I would never take a medication with Cancer Chemo side effects for an allergy problem. But chemo is acceptable when the alternative is death. The problem with vaccines is that people do not see the illnesses we vaccinate for, or they are much more mild. The second problem is that what someone else decides for their child (no vaccines, staggering) impacts my child as vaccinations aren’t perfect and an outbreak caused by a few non-vaccinated kids who get very sick is more likely to result in affecting immunized kids than if the whole “safety net” of everyone vaccinating isn’t maintained. So there are societal implications.Risk is out there for all of us regardless of what decision we make. I have the privilege of knowing individuals involved with the FDA, in industry, in academia and even on the front lines of medicine. Certainly an overwhelming majority of them have peoples best interest at heart. As I said before, a higher percentage than in any other business or calling. I probably get a little touchy about issues like this, but when folks in the media/blogosphere/coffee klatch circles etc…have their notions and the research that they have access to differs from what I have access to, I am a mite fearful of the implications.At least with the Circumcision issue (sorry Lindsay) it’s personal. Vaccination has bigger implications beyond one kid, or one family.

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